Mexican drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman gave an interview to actor
Sean Penn in October, while he was a fugitive after escaping from a
Mexican prison, according to an article the actor wrote for Rolling
Stone.
The interview for Rolling Stone was conducted over a seven-hour meeting, and in follow-up interviews over the phone and in video, Penn says in the article.
Mexican government sources told ABC News that Penn and Kate del
Castillo, the Mexican actress who Penn says helped arrange the meeting,
are under investigation for their "interview" with Guzman.
U.S. Department of Justice declined to comment on the Rolling Stone
story and whether Penn's interview led authorities to El Chapo. The DEA
and U.S. Marshals have not responded to ABC’s request for comment.
According to the article, Guzman met Penn in his hideout in Mexico
months before his recapture by Mexican marines in his home state of
Sinaloa.
Penn says the meeting was arranged with help of Mexican actress Kate del
Castillo, with whom he says Guzman was corresponding in an effort to
get "the story of his life told on film."
Of his first impressions of Guzman, Penn says: "My mind is an instant
flip book to the hundreds of pictures and news reports I had scoured.
There is no doubt this is the real deal. He's wearing a casual patterned
silk shirt, pressed black jeans, and he appears remarkably well-groomed
and healthy for a man on the run."
When the actor asked Guzman at the time about life after escaping and
being free, Guzman responded: "Well, as for being free – happy, because
freedom is really nice, and pressure, well, for me it's normal, because
I've had to be careful for a few years now in certain cities, and, no, I
don't feel anything that hurts my health or my mind. I feel good."
Penn writes that when he asked Guzman who is to blame for drug
trafficking, the drug lord said: "If there was no consumption, there
would be no sales. It is true that consumption, day after day, becomes
bigger and bigger. So it sells and sells."
The actor also recalls about receiving a tip that the DEA became aware
of his trip to Mexico. "Booking any flight to Mexico now would surely
raise red flags," he writes. "I make a plan to hide myself in the trunk
of a friend's car and be driven to a waiting rental vehicle."
The interview, posted online Saturday evening, included the disclosure:
"Some names have had to be changed, locations not named, and an
understanding was brokered with the subject that this piece would be
submitted for the subject’s approval before publication. The subject did
not ask for any changes."
Neither representatives for Penn or Rolling Stone have responded to requests for comment from ABC News.
Guzman was captured Friday after months on the run, and was sent back to the same prison he escaped from in July.
He escaped from the Altiplano prison near Mexico City July 11, launching
an active manhunt. When guards realized that he was missing from his
cell, they found that a ventilated tunnel had been constructed and had
an exit via the bathtub inside Guzman's cell. The tunnel extended for
about a mile underground and featured an adapted motorcycle on rails
that officials believe was used to transport the tools used to create
the tunnel, Monte Alejandro Rubido, the head of the Mexican national security commission, said in July.
Guzman had been sent to Altiplano after he was arrested in February
2014. He spent more than 10 years on the run. after escaping from a
different prison in 2001. It's unclear exactly how he had escaped, but
he did receive help from prison guards who were prosecuted and
convicted.
Guzman, the leader of the Sinaloa cartel,
was once described by the U.S. Treasury as "the most powerful drug
trafficker in the world." The Sinaloa cartel allegedly uses elaborate
tunnels for drug trafficking and has been estimated to be responsible
for 25 percent of all illegal drugs that enter the U.S. through Mexico.
Guzman has also long been ranked among the richest men in the world by
Forbes. Drug enforcement experts have conservatively estimated the
cartel's revenues at more than $3 billion annually.
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